no dedicated servers

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

Rick A. Van Esso - 27286 - BHzD{{RAVEn}}

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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

Read this on IW :

Zandog posted this in the Operation Flashpoint server. They as you all know got screwed out of their clan servers as well.

"This seems to have begun with a serious look at what World of Warcraft has done to thwart piracy and maintain a consistent network. Delivering high quality content and controlling every aspect of it's intellectual properties, Battlenet is reborn as a beginning stage of that uniformity. I realize there are have been games before WoW to do network play but none that have done it to this degree of total game support and control, also none with so much profitability. Now all Blizzard games will be directly tied into the Battlenet system for purchase, updates and content control, preventing piracy and cheating.

This really began to take notice year before last at the now, PC Gaming Alliance's annual game industry meetings where Blizzard spoke about this concept. New models of gaming were talked about, but none really hit home well like content delivery systems like Steam and network management like Battlenet's new system. You see other developers and publishers following suite with test networks, offering free online gaming content delivery and management from companies like Id software and the Quake Live Network, EA's Battlefield Heroes test bed and Game Campus with a host of free games to name a few. There are a host of networks being tested like this across the net that people don't think about as more than just a free game online or a way to get content to the customer like Steam.

At the PC Gaming Alliance's annual game industry meetings there were closed door discussions on how cutting the middle man out by doing away with packaging and store marketing all together by 2013 would boost this profitability exponentially. It's confirmed that about 40% of the gaming industry has a plan in place to shift to this content delivery and management package. It's estimated that by then, 80% of the gaming industry will be internet content delivery ready and be managed solely by 30%+ of the market. Steam would be a good example who owns about 35% of all games delivered over the internet. I could go on about my point, but I think you guys get it pretty well.

CM not releasing dedicated server files, then Infinity Ward announcing that Modern Warfare 2 would not have dedicated server files, instead being hosted on a developer controlled network, and the rumor mill saying EA will unveil their gaming network with the release of Battlefield 3. Expect this kind of thing to happen and there are three major groups of folks you can thank for this plan in the industry. Piracy, with it's untamed and uncontrollable distribution of stolen game software. Server providers with unregulated, highly saturated hosting and destabilizing user control over developer content. (Dedicated servers) and the middle man with high priced packaging, marketing and shipping to retail that over 40% of the gross profit from game titles is lost to.

So you ask why CM did what they did? I don't know, because if they are doing any of these things, they aren't doing it the right way. But only time will tell and I wouldn't call it the death of PC gaming, I'd call it taking back control of the industry and hobby they provide us. It's scary to think I'm paying for something I can't control, but I guess I do that anyway when I pay my taxes. "

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:06 am Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

I believe this is just a press release to inputs from consumers. PC gaming has been losing gamers to console games. Due to the fact that it could be hosted privately and charge a small fee to provide the connection of the network. EA and Activivsion trying to find a way to be more profitable while providing the network connections. They already know the big reason why these online PC gaming last so long for years is due to custom and mod server provided by private providers. With this in mind, this is how they are able to continue to sell the game for more than 2 years. Most console games only last on the shelf for 6 to 12 months. And we all know why cuz of limited expanation. These developer of the games do know that are many supporter that are none profit to keep the game that they relaese going. In with that in mind they continue to make money over the years without spending more money into it. So, I really think they won't go that route, or if they do it wont last long. With out the dedi server they will be able to provide all the gamers online.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

It's the beginning of the end for mankind as we know it! It's all about the money. Crying or Very sad

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

This is horrible news ... i think it's time to put my bitch on !!! Twisted Evil

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

Yeah hate on console players its all their fault for all your problems in your life!!!!! /sarcasm

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

At least if they used PB it'd be consistent. What about sites like PBbans and Punkbusted and all of the time there people have devoted towards anti cheat. PB isn't perfect but it's mated with all of the COD games.

As far as money.....I believe they will end up with a pay to play system associated with their IWnet which will be a crash fest. Nothing like playing on a listening server only to have the kid who's hosting the game go to bed and shut off his computer in mid game. No more 48 player servers...heck..no more 32, 28, 26 or probably even 24 player servers.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

We are with you all too BHzD. When we heard this, all my guys but one canceled their pre-orders. I hope this turns out to be a negative profit margin for them!!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: Re: no dedicated servers

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Wow they really screwed the pooch on this one. Im glad I got out of COD a while ago. Im not made about it, just feel bad for you guys.

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